Thanks for the fast response. Yes, I did mean HIIT. I do two sessions a week. Also, the salad dressing is the only EVOO I use and it isn't even every day. Also, its a modest amount with the MCT oil cutting it in half (love that MCT oil). I have switched all my cooking oil needs to butter and coconut oil. Also, what do you mean by the AM shake? Are you talking about the morning accelerator shake w/ coffee or the CBL PWO shake w/ the minus carbs?

I just went through one bottle of this. It's tough to get an accurate gauge when PF only has products like this in stock sporatically. I would have liked to track my progress over 3-4 months and gauge that against similar time periods last year. I've been waiting a over a week for when they say it will come back in. So, I hate making claims after only a month. That being said, I notice a much better digestive feel when used with high protein shakes and meals. Sometimes I get some groaning and grumbling from high protein gram count shakes and meals. Also, I feel that I am recovering better. Its kind of a loose statement, but I just don't feel as worn out or sore the next two days. I have gotten stronger in the last month with a best lift in Bench and Squat, but I'm not willing to say that this supplement was the cause...just saying it came during the same month.

The one thing I was a little concerned about was PF's claim that it "hyrdolyzes" protein in your system and completely digests everything in 1 1/2 hours...or something like that. With CBL, I've been only using about three caps a day but with my meals and post workout later in the day. I haven't used it earlier. Maybe its ok, but being new, I have no info either way.

Laxer,

That has been my experience also. We play a 5 game set which is usually pretty intense. It lasts about an hour and a half to an hour and 45 minutes. About halfway through game 4 (usually the one hour mark) rapid fatigue sets in. I'm good until then. Not sure how to offset that. My weight workouts are 45-60 minutes and I feel great for that.

My strength is better than it has ever been. I am shooting more for a density bulking right now too. Originally wanted the strength accumulation, but figured that can be closer to summer. Or maybe use CN for that. Reducing carbs further didn't seem appropriate till after my league is over. If anyone has any info to the contrary, please share.

Your diet seems pretty similar to mine, but without the morning workout/practice. Let me know if something clicks for you with the one hour practice fatigue.

Thanks Naomi and Newf. I think that is where I need to adjust things on my off days, maybe need to dial back some. I haven't necessarily "lost" weight. Not that I really need to, I just want to make sure I'm doing things as prescribed. Everything else is going well. Good workouts and strength increase. I appreciate the personal experience from you guys. It kind of makes things from the book click for me when I hear how others manage certain situations.

Yeah. I hear you. I usually stay about 1.0 per lb BW or a little less. I have never adjusted the amount more per day, I just adjusted the brand I was using. PF has been giving me consistent strength/weight improvement without the unfortunate side effects so I just stay with them.

Actually years ago I used to use Muscle Milk cause it was one of the few that didn't seem to bother me too much. Then they changed the formula and added 5g of fiber and that was the end of that. Of course, I shoot for a healthy amount of fiber in my diet, but for me it has to come from veggies, fruit, and a distant third being whole grain since it doesn't work much for CBL. Also, a long time ago I used MHP probolic protein for a period of time and that didn't bother me too much either, but I lost some weight and strength which I can only assume was from the large percentage of soy in it. Don't know that for sure though.

I agree with IJ. Honestly, man, I had myself convinced that bloating and 20 minute bathroom trips were normal if you were taking protein supplements. For me, it wasn't just cheap protein but added fiber like Inulin, Gum blends, other fillers and certain artificial sweeteners etc etc. I ate a breakstone cottage cheese from my friend's house this weekend and it was the digestive support style with added fiber etc and I was all bloated the next morning. For me, natural whole food fiber OK, added fiber supplements not OK.

If you aren't like this then God bless you man. It isn't fun. I use pure products like PF proteins or isopure and I'm OK. It just can't have anything in it but protein. So, for me it isn't the lactose (I'm fine with milk and dairy) it is all the extra stuff that I can't pronounce.

I used to stay away from the old version of six star cause it was sweetened with aspartame, but they changed to sucralose in the new "version" or packaging. That's nice to see.

Just read those 5 cressey articles. Great stuff. Thanks for posting that.