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Supplements / Re: HMB and D Aspartic Acid
« on: November 14, 2012, 09:15:25 AM »
http://www.ergo-log.com/how-hmb-works.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/hmb-loading-period.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/creatine-plus-hmb.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/volleyball-players-hmb.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/hmb-reduces-muscle-breakdown-in-endurance-athletes.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/hmb-keeps-aging-body-muscular-and-trim.html

Never used it, but its come up a lot recently on ergo-log

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Programs and Protocols / Re: Starchy Carbs for Breakfast...?
« on: September 02, 2012, 07:42:01 AM »
Quote from: Fairy on September 01, 2012, 12:07:46 AM
If you’re dieting to lose fat, have starchy carbs at breakfast, during and after training, and the next meal after your workout. — From a new article on Sean Hyson's site: http://www.seanhyson.com/blog/peak-performance-seminar

The other tips in the article seem pretty solid, but what is going on here? Sean has interviewed Kiefer, and he's done CBL.

Apparently Roussell from Peak Performance gets results with this protocol. Any thoughts on how it might be working?

I had been following Roussell on Facebook (along with plenty of others in the training and nutrition world).  I will say that Roussell's ideas, advice, recommendation, etc are geared toward the normal public in my opinion.

I have seen him recommend JUNK products left and right.  From low protein soy shakes processed with junk fillers and cards to peanut butter with sugar and hydrogenated oils. 

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Protein / Re: www.truenutrition.com Was questionable but now am not!
« on: August 30, 2012, 01:24:05 PM »
Quote from: bioengineer on August 30, 2012, 11:19:40 AM
Hey all,

I'm new to CBL and started incorporating it into my Starting Strength routine. Looking forward to the next 4 months while on it :)  Coming from a strict paleo diet, CBL seems like an easy yet rewarding protocol!

After reading The Protein Book by Lyle McDonald and sifting through his literature, truenutrition.com was recommended. I was immediately skeptical of TN's protein due to the numerous products and the "it's-to-good-to-be-true" prices that they offer. Although, now that I have talked to Carl Manes (a company rep) I am definitely behind their product. As per some companies that sneak in loads of rice protein and soy derivatives, which result in less of the desired protein, I inquired to Carl about some of these clandestine practices. He assured me that when you read the contents of a protein, such as Team Skip, you are getting what they advertise and that using "proprietary" blends with some undesirable derivatives are not in their practice. In addition to some weird issues that occurred with TN and third-party lab testing well over 5 years ago, the company has come a long way in quality and flavoring.

Just thought I'd write this because I couldn't find much info on individuals opinions on TN's quality. Carl answered my emails super quickly and was awesome.

On a side note, how have you guys found Protein Factory in terms of quality...anything to be skeptical about?

Let me know.

Alex

Google ProteinFactory 1FAST400

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General Discussion / Re: No Loss Inches or Weight
« on: August 30, 2012, 01:21:27 PM »
Quote from: pshannon on August 30, 2012, 01:12:15 PM
Average calories burned in weight training is 50-80.

wrong.

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Programs and Protocols / Re: Chia Seeds
« on: August 29, 2012, 07:46:36 AM »
Quote from: Big Tex on August 23, 2012, 06:12:33 PM
Per day? Not a good idea. Once or twice a week is pushing it but ok.

why?

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Supplements / Re: quest bars
« on: August 02, 2012, 06:54:34 AM »
I did a search and found nothing on the forums.

Is there a explanation somewhere?

Its whey isolate.  And fiber.  For the most part.  Fiber is technically supposed to be a fatty acid.  So why not? What is the reasoning, or science behind this statement?

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Results! / Re: Results
« on: February 23, 2012, 08:50:58 AM »
Quote from: Dmunnee on February 23, 2012, 08:42:41 AM
I guess I meant "protein shake", with brand being a close second.

I can't "eat" a second meal at work, so a shake has to suffice.  Metabolic Drive? Best tasting protein, easily digested, and free (and fast) shipping from Biotest.  Can't complain about any of those.  I've tried almost every brand and even used TrueProtein for awhile, and I still don't think anything compares.  My opinion on the brand probably won't ever be changed.

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Results! / Re: Results
« on: February 23, 2012, 08:41:24 AM »
Quote from: Dmunnee on February 23, 2012, 08:36:58 AM
Just curious, why do you feel like you need the metabolic drive?

Do you mean the 'brand', or the protein shake, or a 'snack' at all?

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Results! / Re: Results
« on: February 23, 2012, 08:01:02 AM »
Quote from: stumprrp on February 23, 2012, 07:36:51 AM
I cannot give you bulking results because im doing SA, but the recomp and strength gains im noticing are great for 3 weeks.  BF percentage is down approx 2-3%, waist is down 1", and all my numbers in the gym are going up slowly.

Whats your diet like pre-workout?

breakfast-2 cups coffee, 1 tbsp heavy cream, splenda
lunch-10oz chicken breasts fried in extra virgin coconut oil, 1 cup broccoli, 1/3 cup raw almonds, 4g fish oil
snack-2 scoops low carb metabolic drive, 1 tbsp mct oil, 2 tbsp nut butter

edit: typo

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Results! / Re: Results
« on: February 23, 2012, 07:20:42 AM »
Quote from: sckiely on February 22, 2012, 06:56:39 PM
I'm Curious Gabex, are you asking for assistance here, or just expressing frustration?

I wouldn't say frustrated.  I gave up the notion of conventional bulking awhile ago, and finally got lean again, and decided that I would never let that go again.  The "1-2lbs a month" gain is all you can expect, etc. 

After getting a copy of the book, I decided I would at least give it a shot.  What can it hurt?  At most, I've set myself back a month.  I know I could reverse whatever 'damage' was done.  I am not going to do anything drastic as I don't want it to affect my training at the moment.

What I truly want to see are people's results.  Measurements, pics, etc and an outline of how they've trained/eaten.  And to be frank, I don't care about the progress of someone who hasn't been training for at least a few years as that doesn't really matter to me.  Also, I wouldn't discount low carb eating with timed and controlled carb loads.  I think CNS or even CBL with limited backloads are both valid for fat loss, but the results from 'bulking' that I've had don't seem to be much different than any others except that CBL let me eat more junk.

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Results! / Re: Results
« on: February 22, 2012, 05:21:43 PM »
Quote from: Newfiedan on February 22, 2012, 04:42:21 PM
Its about tweaking the diet to get the best results like I said the book is just a starting point and if you were struggling to get in 300 grams carbs then you were probably making less than optimal choices. 1 meal and 5 frosted sugar cookies are easily 300 grams of carbs and I can do that all night long. Trashy high carb sweets are the way to go, skip any healthy carbs as its less than optimal from my experience. Fist carb meal consists of some protein, veggies and a small amount of white rice, after an hour or 2 its carb time, sweets (frosted sugar cookies) are 30 grams carbs each and easy to eat and digest.

Postworkout protein shake+brown spotted banana.  30 minutes later 10oz teriyaki sirloin, 2 servings white rice.  Followed up by 7 gluten free chocolate chip cookies, and 5 'rice crispy' treats (basically rice and sugar).  That was Monday's post workout feeding.  I wouldn't really call that less than optimal.  I suppose I could have drank some liquid carbs, but my in my experience, those tend to bloat me just as much.

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Results! / Re: Results
« on: February 22, 2012, 01:32:40 PM »
Quote from: stumprrp on February 22, 2012, 01:17:18 PM
Ive done the prep phase and 3 full weeks of CBL and ive noticed some good gains.  Bodyweight hasnt dropped much (3.5 pounds) but my waist is down 1 inch and my caliper measurments are going down weekly.  Strength is also the same if not better.  The carb loads need to be monitored closely IMO.  Keep it trashy, but dont use it as an excuse to go overboard.  My delta was only 477 but i rarely take in over 300.

My delta was 364 based on 4lbs lost, and 574 based on body weight of 165 post prep phase.  That's a huge difference.  I was force feeding myself to get to 300g actually, but it took eating 300g to get my body weight back up from the prep phase. 

I think if I were to redo the prep phase, I would easily cut the fat gain and I could probably get some decent results using less carbs, or throwing in more low carb days, but I would hardly see that as "density bulking".

My old setup was both more practical and enjoyable.

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Results! / Re: Results
« on: February 21, 2012, 06:49:56 PM »
I pretty much followed the diet as close as possible, and quite frankly, I'm not that impressed

Nov 17 2011 (Old Diet, IF with ~50g carbs during the day and ~70g periworkout carbs)
Body weight 168lb
Waist measure 30.75in

Jan 2 2012 (Day 2 of Prep Phase)
Body weight 169
Waist measure 31.25in
* only a 1lb difference, bloated and +0.5 inch waist change mainly due to Christmas and NYE

Jan 9 2012 (Day 9 of Prep Phase)
Body weight 165
Waist measure 30.5in
* -4lbs, -0.75 in, flat

Jan 17 2012 (~1 wk of light CBL)
Body weight 167
Waist measure 30.75

Feb 21 2012 (6 wks of CBL)
Body weight 171
Waist measure 31.75

Edit: to clarify, I was obviously eating more for CBL.  But I was eating per the book's guidelines, and I thought the protocol was touted for gaining lean mass without adding fat.

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Results! / Re: Results
« on: February 21, 2012, 01:40:19 PM »
Speaking of results (in general)..

Where are they?

Books been out a little over 8wks now.

That's sufficient enough for anyone doing SA to have cut at least 8lbs of fat or gain 8lbs of lbm with little to no fat (assuming 1/lb a wk either way).

Results? Pics? Measurements? Anyone?

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Carb Back-Loading™ / Re: Question about CBL fat-loss
« on: January 25, 2012, 08:31:41 PM »
Quote from: gabex on January 25, 2012, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: Dmunnee on January 25, 2012, 12:17:09 PM
jebus that's quite a bit of yoyo-ing.  I think I've been between 195-214lb since I graduated college 8 years ago.

There were also a few different injuries in there, too.  But I agree.  That's why I decided to maintain 168 for awhile to have a 'set-point' for leanness.  I basically went from 191 in Dec 10 to 168 in June 11.  It's always been steady fat loss.  Never crash diets.  But I'm ready to gain without needing to cut 6 months later!

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